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Author Topic: Why are people against the wall?  (Read 1006 times)

PinkButterfly66

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2018, 05:18:31 pm »
Because we HAVE a wall.  It doesn't need to be replaced.

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2018, 05:26:37 pm »

 
Visa Overstays Outnumber Illegal Border Crossings, Trend Expected to Continue



The majority of immigrants settling in the U.S. without authorization are first coming to the country legally, raising questions about the effectiveness of President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

Crossing the border is not the way "the large majority of persons now become undocumented," the Center for Migration Studies (CMS) said in a recent report. Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission, the center repored.


Overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007.

The study by the CMS divides the 2014 population into two groups: those who enter with a valid temporary visa, but subsequently “overstay” and establish residence in the U.S. without authorization and those who “enter without inspection” (EWI) through the southern border without proper immigration documents.

According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.” Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.
This trend is expected to continue.
The CMS has previously reported on the dramatic decline in the U.S. undocumented population between 2008 and 2014.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216
« Last Edit: December 25, 2018, 05:33:51 pm by PinkButterfly66 »
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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2019, 01:55:28 pm »
That dang wall is not necessary.  The issues are with the legal route. That is where change needs to take place.  A wall is not going to stop people.
Besides,  he had ample time and opportunity to fund his pipe dream during the 2 years prior to the Dems taking Congress. He's only interested now because of the Dems taking over Congress.

uaxed

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2019, 12:12:16 am »
Is it important to keep people from Nebraska out of Kansas?  Why not?





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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 06:18:53 am »
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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 02:07:14 pm »
Yes, let's just kill random people fleeing violence in their country.   That'll fix everything.  What a fucking joke. 

We don't need to waste BILLIONS of dollars on an unnecessary monument to the fucktard currently holding our country hostage.  The fucktard doesn't want the wall anyway, he wants the FIGHT for the wall.  He was offered $25 billion last year & he turned it down.   
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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 06:43:05 pm »
Most criminals and drugs come through legal points of entry.  An interesting fact is that the number of HS officers at the legal entry points is well below what the department recommends.  So why not put funding into employing more officers, who can do more to make sure that those crossing at these places are not moving drugs across the border? 

The number of people illegally crossing the southern border is at the LOWEST point it has been since Nixon was president.   Three times more people cross the northern border illegally, or overstay visas. 

The whole wall bullshit was Trump playing to the lowest common denominator in his base and that's who he continues to play to.  It's not about making Americans safer, it's about his ego and him trying to fulfill one of his nonsensical promises. 

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2019, 08:19:36 am »
This entire discussion is insane.  Tough drug and border enforcement are the reason drug cartels are now more powerful than the government in Mexico.  Having drugs be illegal is what causes the drug problems.  The laws are not lowering demand, at all, and prohibitions empower suppliers. 

Drugs and people from other countries are not a problem.   If drugs are legal and society has good health systems, then people with drug problems get help without obstacles.  And where people happen to be standing at this moment, in relation to where they were born, is meaningless.   People could come here, find there is no hiring process for illegals, and go home.  But that is not what they find.


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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2019, 08:38:20 pm »
It is dumb and a waste of money. Most drugs coming into this country are coming in thru ports.

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2019, 09:04:36 am »
Yes, let's just kill random people fleeing violence in their country.   That'll fix everything.  What a fucking joke. 

We don't need to waste BILLIONS of dollars on an unnecessary monument to the fucktard currently holding our country hostage.  The fucktard doesn't want the wall anyway, he wants the FIGHT for the wall.  He was offered $25 billion last year & he turned it down.   


Of course. He needed a hot-button issue for his re-election campaign, and now he has one.

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Re: Why are people against the wall?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2019, 04:27:43 am »
The many drugs come thru ports not the border. The wall is a huge waste of money.

I live in Philadelphia. Kensington is the #1 area for opioid abuse. The opioids did not come from the border. It comes thru ports. A wall wouldn’t do shit here.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 04:29:26 am by Debmomto2teens »
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